[kwlug disc.] linux on zune

[Chris Bruner]

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Marcel Gagne wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> On Tuesday 12 December 2006 19:16, Chris Bruner wrote:
>   
>> I'm not suggesting that MS is all powerful (NO! My views are just
>> slightly under Richards), but I am suggesting that you will see zune's
>> on the store shelves for years to come and it will grab a significant
>> portion of the market, just because of the MS name, which everyone knows
>> from their computer. 
>>     
>
> I wouldn't bet my life (or anything of great value) on that one.  Set the 
> wayback machine to just four years ago. Microsoft branded Ethernet cards, 
> routers, hubs, wireless gear, and other networking products were on shelves 
> at Staples, Best Buy, and Future Shop. Now, they are nowhere to be found. 
>
> Microsoft has had some famous flops. Remember BOB? SPOT watches? Microsoft TV 
> (set top boxes)? There are other Microsoft branded failures out there and 
> Zune could soon join that list. 
>   
Hmm I don't remember those. I've heard rumors in the past but didn't 
know they had ever materialized. Perhaps not enough sh$t was thrown. 
They seem to be throwing serious money at zune, trying to get it into 
the public eye. They are buying the market.  I believe they have enough 
money to accomplish that. Whether it will stay bought is another thing.
> Believe that Microsoft can sometimes fail and maybe you can believe the 
> following as well. 
>   
I've no doubt that MS can sometimes fail.   I was only suggesting that 
in this area, here is a way to show how Linux is better.  Myth-TV is 
known for it's difficulty to install. What is needed is a knoppix like 
upgrade that leaves them with a sense that they've gotten a super 
upgrade called Linux.
Then they look on the Internet for Linux and see they can get it on 
their desktop as well....

We should do this with the Sony PS3 as well. I got one :) and installed 
Linux on it. But because my TV isn't high definition I couldn't make out 
the text, so all I have is a skeleton system with busybox on it. I 
didn't want to try to install a full system without being able to see 
what I was doing.
However, where Linux could improve the PS3 is:
1. PS3 can show pictures, play music, download updates, surf the net, 
play games. It cannot do more then one of these things at a time. (You 
would think with 8 processors...)  Linux can do all of these things at once.
2. The PS3 can dual boot so it's a non-destructive upgrade.
3. The PS3 can play PS3 games, emulate PS2 (and ps1 possibly). Linux can 
emulate Commodore 64,PS1,PS2, all the MAME stuff, Super Nintendo as well 
as play native games.

The more Linux gets out on handheld devices and game consoles and PC's 
the more Linux will snowball.


>> I would love to see Linux on the desktop as the defacto standard. I
>> think it should be.
>>     
>
> Take care out there.
>
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