[kwlug disc.] Atria WiFi as ISP

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Kareem Shehata wrote, On 02/06/2008 11:35 AM:
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> I got not such co-operation at the time.

Nor I, other than verbal assurances. The point (at the time) was to 
make sure if it happened again, I'd have something to work with.

>> Which is 'easily' gotten around by using TLS or SSH.

> But that doesn't work for incoming stuff.  Not that I host my own mail
> anymore, but the concept still bothers me.

Agreed. And something I have yet to figure out how to solve. The only 
thing I can think of is: (a) if your provider agrees, have them 
forward mail to you not on SMTP. Which gets a little weird as your DNS 
entry would have to point to your provider, not you. (b) Have all your 
mail go to your provider, and put auto-forwarding in on all accounts. 
Or something.

	I think I'll be trying (b) next in that my current issues are that my 
e-mail is all over the place. If I can just get it all _in_ to a 
server at home (via egroupware / courier), then at least I have a 
single coherent view of the world, and can then apply 'global' filters 
across all accounts, etc.

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>> See logs above. And don't put up with B.S. Get up the managerial /
>> technical chain as soon as you can. <sigh>
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> I'd rather not have to even deal with that.

Fair point. Can't blame you. But when it's the only game in town.

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>> In my case, it's Rogers, or no reasonable internet. Bell lines are
>> just useless for data at my place.
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> Yea, I'm starting to suspect the same of the place in Toronto, but I'm
> moving out anyway.  What I don't understand is why there's no competition
> for cable internet in this province.  From what I can tell, there's
> competition elsewhere, why not here?

Competition is somewhat of a misnomer. In the sense, in the end, 
either Bell, or Rogers, owns the copper coming into the house. And 
they want their piece of flesh.

Last time I did any significant looking, there is a cable (internet) 
competitor to Rogers out there. But they still come over Rogers lines. 
Therefore you will also be subject to Rogers traffic shaping. They are 
cheaper, but from what I could see in terms of comments, support would 
be useless, and connectivity spotty.

Heads Up: Piece of advice I got from a Rogers tech at one point ... if 
you have cable high speed, Rogers or not, make sure they tag the 
cable. Rogers uses a red tag (like a wire tie ) with an @ on it. Even 
if you have to make your own, get it tagged.

	Apparently more than once the cable has been disconnected by a Rogers 
tech, because TV service was cancelled and there was no tag. There 
went internet connectivity for a few days until the customer detected 
it, called support, up the line it went, and Rogers had time to come 
back and re-screw on the cable. And you know Rogers isn't going to 
give priority to someone else's customer.